Interview with Glenn Chilcott The Bank of New York Mellon
Glenn Chilcott is at the top of his game in the world of IT, but don’t be fooled by his relaxed exterior...he has worked phenomenally hard to get to where he is today; simultaneously studying for various Masters Degrees and Diplomas (including his MBA), whilst working as a very senior-level IT professional. He has had various roles, including Senior Programme Manager, Director of IT and most recently, Vice President. Viewing his Linkedin profile in preparation for this interview, would only confirm what was discovered; that Glenn is a highly respected member of the IT profession. A recent senior colleague says of him, “It has been a privilege for me to work with Glenn Chilcott on a major project of The Bank of New York Mellon in London. Glenn is a no-nonsense manager who does not watch his personal interest first but brings out the best in others to the benefit of his team and his company. He has great technical and project management skills and for him there are no such things as problems, there are only solutions.” This interview was conducted in the Members Lounge of the Tate Modern; where Glenn is a member and a keen art enthusiast.
Testing Circle would like to thank Glenn Chilcott for allowing us to conduct this interview. Interviewed by Ashleigh Ace, Testing Circle Marketing Manager.
Did you choose IT or did IT choose you?
I
took Computer Science as a GCSE at school and came top of my year, so I think
it was a natural progression from there.
I surmised that the IT industry had the potential for career growth and
going into that field would provide longevity and stability. I am quite risk adverse so these aspects
were, and continue to be, important to me.
What is your favourite thing about your job?
I enjoy shaping things up from the early stages by providing guidance and leadership based upon pragmatism and experience. The way I like to describe it, is if I was leading a team of people up Mount Everest I would want to be equipped for every eventuality. By being appropriately equipped, it makes you personally more aware of the challenges and therefore more confident; plus it makes the people following you more secure in your leadership.
For example, in a project or programme you need to determine what skills and resources are required and to set up the governance structure accordingly. I love tailoring things to ensure they are fit for purpose, learning how things fit together and watching people respond. Every project and programme is different and unique, so the way it’s initiated, developed and implemented will change each time - I enjoy approaching them with this in mind. Experience has taught me that communication is key so it is important to get this right whether it is for your team, the governance structure or stakeholders.
So in answer to your question; my favourite thing is spending the requisite time and energy at initiation and watching everything successfully fall into place in sequence (although you must expect the unexpected!).
What are some of the challenges of IT?
There
are always challenges in any role but even more so when technology is
involved. The easiest way to cover the
variety of problems is to break them down - that way any one reading this can
better understand what to expect and learn how to pre-empt the trials and
tribulations of IT!
The most challenging
aspect (and the thing I am most involved in) is managing change. IT needs to be heavily involved in the change
agenda in order to ensure sustainability and this requires skills and
capabilities traditionally beyond the remit of the typical IT person. IT implementations are so much more than the
technology. And although technology continually evolves (getting faster and
smaller, more scalable with different ways of doing things, for example with
cloud computing and business intelligence) I firmly believe the basic
fundamentals of developing and implementing technology stay the same and you
ignore them at your peril.
Convincing the business
stakeholders to continue to invest in the current business environment; the
temptation is to rein in spending that could then affect the business
longer-term when the upturn comes. If
you fail to invest in infrastructure, systems and your people it can hand
competitive advantage to your competitors and give a fillip to new market
entrants.
Keeping your people
engaged and motivated is a common challenge regardless of function. There has
been a lot written on this and I am still surprised how little understood, or
worse ignored, this is. Understand what makes your people tick and what
motivates and demotivates them. In some organisations I see too many people
disengaged and they lack understanding of how their role contributes to the
overall. This can be costly on so many levels.
Organisations must continually
question their effectiveness and efficiency. They must also innovate and ensure
they reward/incentivise creativity within their workforce. Performance
management systems can often stifle these aspects. Well established businesses
can take a leaf out the book of newish companies like Microsoft and Google.
Companies should be continually benchmarking themselves against their
competitors and their peers - not only as a business, but as individuals.
Some managers can become
very insular. I believe that learning to
‘lead’ rather than ‘manage’ whilst maintaining approachability is the key to
the success both personally and within the business. Leaders must display key
leadership traits and engage with their people and the business effectively.
Leadership is not a menu that you pick and choose from as the mood suits! Too
often good technicians are turned into poor leaders. Leadership development is
key.
The business
stakeholders want to see a return on their investment – therefore it is
necessary to understand the lifetime value of systems and infrastructure, as
well as the actual impact technology can have both as an enabler and a
constrainer. IT needs to work closely with the business on business cases and
subsequently review objectively whether implementations met their critical
success factors.
Attracting and
developing the right people can be a challenge; they need to have good
technical skills as well as wider business awareness and have the ability to
engage with the business itself. As I
mentioned earlier from a managerial standpoint (and it’s true of all levels)
that people can become very insular (especially within IT) and it’s important
to be seen as a business partner and customer focused. HR has generally adopted
this model but it remains patchy across IT.
The entire IT
organization, especially when spread within a global company may contain
various cultures, timezones and differences in the way people do business -
it’s important to be aware of this and respectful of all people’s perspectives
and learn how these considerations can influence what is, and is not, effective
communication.
Stringent adoption of
methodologies can create a challenge in itself.
I’m certainly not saying that they can’t be useful, but I believe that
from a pragmatic point of view, people should be able select what is
appropriate based upon their experience and fit-for-purpose. Methodologies and
structured practices should help enable and not constrain progress.
Effective and
appropriate governance is a key issue which I see including risk & issue
management, scope management and change management. It’s a challenge to ensure that all areas of
the business are represented within the programme/project and governance
structure. For example; Legal, Compliance and HR should be present from the
get-go and not just be brought in at the eleventh hour. Because of its
importance there should be a vested interest in IT from all aspects of the
business from the point of initiation, whilst not guaranteeing success this
helps mitigate risk.
An active and engaged
sponsor as ‘problem owner’ is key; I am still shocked by the number of projects
and change programmes where this vital aspect isn’t in place. This needs to be
someone constantly aware of the challenges and the status but has the seniority
and influence to positively affect progress. A distant figurehead sponsor will
simply not do! Never underestimate the power of having an ally whether it’s to
bounce ideas off of, gain extra resources or just a shoulder to cry on!
Security of data can be
a challenge potentially overlooked - it’s very important to not only adhere to,
but be seen to be complying with key legislation such as the Data
Protection Act. I am a big advocate of giving the business access to (what is)
their data but I also anticipate more high-profile instances of data loss with
potentially irreparable negative impact to reputation and damage to brand – not
to mention CIOs careers!
CIO/IT Directors must
have influence at board and executive level, too often they can be regarded as
‘techies’ as part as business support rather than fully engaged in the overall
commercial wellbeing of the organisation.
What
is the best piece of advice you could give someone considering a career
in IT? Or more specifically, someone who wants to end up in a similar
role to you?
Distinguish
the right balance between technological knowledge and business awareness. You need to understand on a more global level
how best to assist the business and the people in it - learn about your
competitors, the various regions, the business environments; and as I mentioned
before, learn about the assortment of cultures that make up the company and be
aware of them. Find out how technology
can better the business, figure out why and then work out how to overcome the
problems!
How did your career develop?
I
started off as a programmer, moved onto systems design, and then was a project
leader. From there, I went into a more
managerial role, and then moved on to be an IT Director. I enjoy the fact that I started from a lower
level position, it allowed me to understand more about the business, and how
each person and each role helps the greater functioning of the company. It gave me a wider understanding, taught me
how projects are completed and the aptitude to learn the differences between a
well executed project and a badly executed one.
The way I describe my position now, is similar to the pilot of a plane -
I should be able to witness things that are going on from 37,000ft and see the
‘bigger picture’; whereas starting from the lower levels e.g. the ‘baggage
handlers’ has allowed me the perspective from the ground up. When you are focussed on one thing e.g. a
project, there is a tendency to have tunnel vision; whereas the job of a leader
is not to get so involved in the day-to-day intricacies of the projects, yet
oversee everything and still have an idea of what’s happening around you.
What is your best memory throughout your IT Career?
There is a definite case that springs to mind - I was leading a team who were developing a new system and we were about to demo it to a group of senior leaders who had come in from various parts of the UK. Ten minutes beforehand, the system (which up until this point had worked perfectly!) ceased to function due to a connectivity issue. After a few minutes attempting to correct the problem, I excused myself to the bathroom to allow my team some breathing space and to gather my thoughts as to how I was going to explain this! However, upon my return my team had corrected the issue with moments to go. The demo went exceptionally well, and best of all none of the attendees knew the scare we had five minutes previously! However the greatest part came when the system was actually implemented and is still being used today many years later.
What personal characteristics do you think you need to be in your job?
You
definitely need to be level-headed, as well as creative, empathetic and
objective. You also need to have good
business acumen, be client-focussed and if you’re not already, learn to be a
good listener! As cheesy as it sounds,
people want to do business with people they like doing business with; so the
more you enjoy your job and work hard at engaging with people, the more it will
come through in your every day performance!
How do you think we could encourage more Graduates into IT?
I
believe we need to promote the aspects of being a ‘partner in the business’ (as
per the HR model) and less the thought that IT is an ‘ivory tower’ in a
business support role. IT is a key
enabler for the organising both internally and commercially and I think if
graduates had a greater understanding of this, then we may get a higher influx
of new talent. The perception of IT is
that it tends to be quite male-dominated, which to an extent is true but
there’s no reason for it to be that way.
The great thing about IT is that it doesn’t discriminate; if you’re good
at your job then you’re good at your job!
I believe organisations like the British Computer Society (BCS) have a
key role of developing IT as a profession and it is incumbent upon us all to
inform graduates of the potential career development IT can offer them and help
them realise that it doesn’t just have to be just a fallback option.
Blackberry, iPhone, Android or other?
I don’t own any, but if I did it would be an iPhone as I already have an iTouch and have grown fond of some of my apps!
What car do you drive?
I currently drive a Mercedes CLK but my heart will always belong to BMW!
Who would play you in a movie?
A combination
of Tom Cruise, Steve McQueen and George Clooney – men of style and gravitas!
Testing Circle would like to thank Glenn Chilcott for allowing us to conduct this interview. Interviewed by Ashleigh Ace, Testing Circle Marketing Manager.
Established in 2007 from the merger of Mellon Financial Corporation and
The Bank of New York Company, Inc., BNY Mellon is a leading investment
management and investment services company, uniquely focused to help
clients manage and move their financial assets and succeed in the
rapidly changing global marketplace. Headquartered in New York, BNY
Mellon has $25.9 trillion in assets under custody or administration and
$1.2 trillion under management.